The first time was to use with the Stax Ursa setup I was buying at the same time. After breaking it when I was *****, I bought another Phoenix to replace it. It’s so easy to clean and makes everything else that much easier to clean. It also looks crazy and will freak your more square friends out, which I happen to enjoy. The body of the second Phoenix I bought doesn’t sit next to the body of Ursa as cleanly as the first one did but it’s fine. I recommend.